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July 12, 2005 - The "brew"-haha over the so-called "hot coffee" modification to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas continues, with a media watchdog group now issuing a warning to parents about the game -- and developer Rockstar finally commenting on the allegedly unlockable pornographic content.

The National Institute on Media and the Family (NIMF) issued a warning to parents this week, concerned that the "hot coffee" mod was already being mentioned on "popular teen websites." The organization, following a similar statement from California Assemblyman Leland Yee last week, claims that the ESRB failed to rate San Andreas appropriately.

"It should be clear to everyone by now that video games do influence young people," said NIMF founder Dr. David Walsh. "While San Andreas is already full of violent behavior and sexual themes, the pornographic sex scenes push it over the edge. The ratings board has launched an investigation to determine if it was mislead into issuing a 'Mature' rating instead of the 'Adults Only' rating. There may even be legal ramifications since most states have laws restricting the sale of sexually explicit material to those eighteen and older."

The Institute, led by Dr. David Walsh, seeks to "help families and educators to maximize the benefits and minimize the harm of mass media on children through research, education and advocacy." The organization is known for its annual "video game report card" on game content.

Patrick Wildenborg, a 36-year-old living in the Netherlands, recently told the Associated Press he was responsible for the "hot coffee" mod, which -- either through simply unlocking content, or altering the game itself -- allows San Andreas players to participate in explicit sexual scenes.

While Wildenbourg claims his mod only reveals what Rockstar had hidden in the game, Rockstar Games is now officially denying that it included the scenes in San Andreas, whether hidden or not.

"So far we have learned that the "hot coffee" modification is the work of a determined group of hackers who have gone to significant trouble to alter scenes in the official version of the game," reads Rockstar's official statement. "In violation of the software user agreement, hackers created the 'hot coffee' modification by disassembling and then combining, recompiling and altering the game's source code. Since the 'hot coffee' scenes cannot be created without intentional and significant technical modifications and reverse engineering of the game's source code, we are currently investigating ways that we can increase the security protection of the source code and prevent the game from being altered by the 'hot coffee' modification."

Rockstar says it is currently cooperating with the ESRB in investigating the source of the "hot coffee" content, and is confident that a "Mature" rating is appropriate for San Andreas. Games rated "Mature" are intended for players age 17 and older.

DAI World Order
I heard of this mod but haven't tried it.

I have enough porn so i dont need it ^__^
I have enough porn so i dont need it ^__^

There is no such thing as "enough" porn! :grin:
DAI World Order
Let's not go directly blaming the parents on this one. This time is Rockstar's fault since:

1) They are denying this but there are many GTA sites that have the mod to unlock this feature.

2) Although the game is rated M, Rockstar tricked the MSRB into rating this game as rated M but actually it should be rated higher. An analogy would be an NC-17 movie being passed off as an R rated movie cause the filmakers hid some of the "extra" content for the MPAA but when being shown at a theater, it was the full, uncut NC-17 movie.

oh yeah, Hilary Clinton is on top of this case. Pretty ironic since she's a liberal and usually it's the conservatives who are into the censorship and crap and ignoring the rating system. But I guess something like this would win a lot of voters for the 08 election biggrin.gif :grin: :rolling:
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But I guess something like this would win a lot of voters for the 08 election biggrin.gif   :grin:  :rolling:

o lord, don't remind me
I have enough porn so i dont need it ^__^

There is no such thing as "enough" porn! :grin:

But you know you've had enough when you go blind. :grin:
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Must be blind from to much porn?! :tongue:
San Andreas gets the AO
The ESRB is recalling the game in order to prevent further sales of the title until it can place the AO [Adults Only] rating on it, or until Rockstar games removes "Hot Coffee" altogether. The game was first hacked out of the PC version, then Action Replay released a code that allowed it to be unlocked in the PlayStation 2 and XBOX versions.

This is...odd. It's to be the first console game to ever get the AO rating, and might come as a blow to overall sales for Rockstar, considering that interest in the title was renewed after gamers found out about the minigame. This is insane, I never thought it would go this far. What's worse is that this apparently undermines the ESRB credibility...but it shoudn't. They can only judge based on what they see, what they're shown by the developers, and if Rockstar conveniently skipped this, the ESRB couldn't possibly know.

Click here for the Kotaku article
DAI World Order
it doesn't matter anyways cause I am sure the kids would get someone who is 18+ to get the game for them.
True, but it also makes it an easier target for those damn politicians to attack. sleep.gif My question is this-is there a huge difference between the 17 only and the 18 only ratings?
Uh... can anyone say "Free publicity"!?

Rockstar planned the whole thing to start with - they know people are out there and they WILL find stuff like this. But at the same time, whiney parents and Hillary Clinton need to just suck their thumbs on this one. Its not like there is nudity or anything - its a motion, no more-no less. And if a non-mature kid sees it, so what, that's the parents fault, not Rockstar nor anyone else. Besides, parents should explain to their children whats going on what they should/n't do about it...

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